50 Years of PAP - on the idea of 'Foreign Interference in Internal Affairs'

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I am far too territorial to react kindly to foreign interference. My definition of it is probably more extreme than most people would imagine. I do feel that my government wrongly interfered with the punishment of my cretinous countryman in a flurry of reactionary codling as we have become wont to do.

You seem to want to look into the system that put someone in a disposition to commit destructive acts and regard the situation with some degree of empathy. I feel that Singapore's response was great! Our system has become one where your imediate wants and desires are paramount and there is no consequence to being destructive. Spanking a spoiled child's bottom is a perfect example of cause and effect (in his case, it might have been a permanent one.) I honestly think that one of our people going to another place and intentionally breaking their laws leaves you open to punishment (even if the punishment is a bit harsh.) It is not as if they framed him for being such a woefully disrespectful lawbreaker. The law enforcement folks didn't kidnap him in the dark of night never to be heard from again.

We really shouldn't have gotten involved other than request to do the caning (though I think many of us lack the ability to deliver a proper beating.) OK, maybe this was a bad example. I am normally one to put the Anarchist in anarchist, but that was a really crappy thing to do. If you must go into a foreign system and act in a way that is hostile to that system, what the hell is wrong with trying to get the system modified? That way if you aren't doing it to be an ass, you could affect some change that might benefit everyone if it is a flawed system.

I know that is really flying in the face of my usual "grab the pitchforks and torches, we're going to kick some ass!" solution to everything, but I am getting old.

I still give the finger to all of the foreigners who are dancing around because we elected Obama. We get it, you're happy but you had nothing to do with it. He's actually just another politician and a lawyer no less! You don't know that he's going to improve anything, in fact he has thrown a lot of his constituents under the bus (right on! In your face, Tom DeLay!)

Other countries are more than welcome to criticize, just don't get so bent when we don't always take your advice. Interference isn't offering other ideas (in my opinion) it is rolling in as certain people have no problem doing and forcing an outcome that eases their sensibilities.

For example: France decided that women aren't going to be wearing the burkas anymore. My first thought was "Man, that takes balls!" My second thought was that I would be really mad if I had a nice comfortable burka that I would be in trouble for wearing. (I heard there was a similar event that took place in Iran with the veil. First 'Thou Shalt be Vieled' then 'No Viels Even for Those that Wish to Wear Them!') I would be the dork sitting in jail bemoaning that my nice soft burka had been confiscated.) People around here are asking if we should follow France's lead in this. My thoughts are 'no way.' First, we are not France. We need to explore the reasons why they did this (I suspect there is an anti-muslim backlash going on there and there is more to it than the statements they have released) and decide exactly how we feel about it. I am hestitant not because I don't have "balls" (which I don't) but because I think that we should foster an environment where fundamentalist muslims will not feel the need to cloister their women (if that is possible, but you know what I mean.) I don't believe in telling people how to feel, but I think mandating stuff like that is a seriously bad idea. We need to find a way to make it something that people don't want to do to their women because of a conscious social choice to do the right thing, not because someone made them. I say give people what they need to do the right thing instead of doing the wrong thing to make things easier on your sense of morality.

I am not sure what that has to do with me being territorial, but I need to get back to work.

Our system has become one where your imediate wants and desires are paramount and there is no consequence to being destructive. Spanking a spoiled child's bottom is a perfect example of cause and effect


Resorting to barbaric punishement and making an example of people detracts us from looking into the social causes of evils, and undermining them from the ground up. It undermines the social scientific potentials of the masses and enables the diffusion of responsibility. The phrase, 'blaming the victim' would be relevant here. Many a time, the most blatant instances of evils can serve as indicators of the deficiencies of the entire train of thoughtlessness that has been put into motion.


I still give the finger to all of the foreigners who are dancing around because we elected Obama. We get it, you're happy but you had nothing to do with it.


Frankly, i couldn't give a toss who occupies the white house. When a few asked me what i thought about Obama being elected, on the one hand, i said, 'well, America has gone one step ahead of asia in this by electing a non-white whereas in singapore, for instance, the government has kept saying that singapore isn't ready for an indian PM, and then moved to ensure that it never will with their culturally and racially skewed policies. But, on the other hand, i said, he's an american isn't he. That's just like another bad 'upgrade' to windows. But i suppose most people dance around because america, americans and the american president is perceived to be the centre of the terrestrial universe - not by wisdom, but by brawn and their being appeal to the juvenile in humanity. In this, you should not blame them, its your cultural, economic and military hegemony that is doing it.


Other countries are more than welcome to criticize, just don't get so bent when we don't always take your advice. Interference isn't offering other ideas (in my opinion) it is rolling in as certain people have no problem doing and forcing an outcome that eases their sensibilities.


I think you missed the point about the meaning of 'interference' i elucidated upon in my article 3D. That counters your idea of 'interference'. I would like to see how my counter point can be argued against. Anyone who does so simply takes scientific thought and throws it out of the window.


I am not sure what that has to do with me being territorial, but I need to get back to work.


Being 'territorial' is usually induced by insecurity-cum-ignorance-cum-arrogance. Not unlike a medieval peasant with a blog. I'm not referring to you of course. One of the main engines delivering us from those times was scientific thought. Now, the ability to click on a 'publish' button is deemed by the ignorant masses to be reason enough to view themselves as scientific. 'My being able to open my mouth and say ahhh' is deemed reason enough to discount all reason and logic. In essence, being territorial means that another's opinon doesn't count till s/he's got the right to permanent residence in the local loo.


As for the burka issue, these french are really becoming intolerably stupid. I said as much about 5 years ago on another site when they banned students from wearing the Islamic headdress in schools. These cretins are turning secularism - as i stated 5 years ago - into a religion and giving a bad name to the spirit of the French revolution which was conducted, in essence, for the sake of INCLUSION. I doubt many of these french who claim to be french know this.

However, i can't say that i entirely disagree with Sarkozy on the burka issue as opposed to the headdress issue. Historically, it has been brought about by male dominance. The Islamic modesty is founded largely on the need to not incite lust in men. What they ought to do is to find a way to eradicate lust in men. In this, lust is perpetuated and women have to pay the price. However, what France ought to do is to provide an egalitarian and inclusive environment and afford women protection should they desire to remove their burkas with impunity. To turn this into a law simply comes across as cultural imposition. Of course, Sarkozy being a religiously secularist individual wouldn't realise this.


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Thank you for the insightful blogpost. The Singapore Democrats have featured your post in the blogs of the week section – http://yoursdp.org/index.php/news/blogs-of-the-week

More about the “Blogs of the week” section – http://yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/2212-blogs-of-the-week
You're welcome Seelan.

Well, i hope that they will be able to fully appreciate and cross-apply the principles in the article on themselves as well.

As for the SDP featuring my post under the 'blogs of the week' section, I am not flattered, as 'blogs' aren't appreciated with as much attention and consideration as the pronouncements of the leaders of the opposition whose analyses and appreciation of phenomena are quite shallow at the best of times.

That said, i hope the elite in the opposition will be able to learn a thing or two about the fundamentals of opposition and democracy from my articles.



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